Re: Blitz Tournament

by populista Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:28 pm

bigdady -

You're confusing Umelo RED with Umelo GOLD.

I grant you Umelo GOLD is a great team, but they are playing up in U12 in this tourney!

Umelo RED is a good "B" team, but they only play OPL 8v8, and should not give any of the OPL 11v11 teams too serious a challenge . . . yet.

by **05GKdad_Tulsa** Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:40 pm

Based on gotsoccer it was Umelo Red...unless you know something different, I'm going to believe gotsoccer posting.

http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=548497&History=yes&compact=

by 05Soccer Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:55 pm

populista wrote:You always hate to think a club might be home-cookin' their own tournament; but the 04B 11v11 division looks pretty squirrelly.

By far the 2 strongest teams -- Air Capital and WSA -- were placed in the same bracket (B), apparently leaving Blitz 05 (playing up) with relatively easy shot at getting to the final.

If you aren't providing semifinal games, why not weight the brackets evenly to produce a final involving the two best teams?!?

I would argue Bracket A is by far the stronger bracket of the two:

Umelo's "B" team did very well at Beat the Heat (beating WSA 6-0 and only losing to OFC top team 2-3). Blitz 05 is far and away the second best team 05 team in the state and has already won two 11v11 tournaments this year (including beating several teams that play in the top division of 04 OPL including teams WSA has lost to). Not to mention NOKC 05 Red which is hands down the best 05 team (has beaten Blitz 05 almost every time they have played over the years) in the state and is used to playing very high level competition and most of the roster is used to playing up a lot.

by Ymca Bob and Kevin Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:18 pm

004tulsa wrote:To be fair, I went and compared the fall 2013 & fall 2014 tournaments.

Academy
What I noticed at first glance was only one NOKC team this year (05b red), no ESC teams this year, more KC teams this year.
Out of state last yr: 1 in u8 boys, 3 in u9 boys, 8 in u10 boys, 1 in u8 girls, 3 in u9 girls, 4 in u10 girls
Out of state this yr: 2 in u8 boys, 4 in u9 boys, 3 in u10 boys, 1 in u8 girls, 3 in u9 girls, 3 in u10 girls

U11-U13
There are 11 v 11 brackets for girls u11. Only 1 out of state for u11 girls (3 last yr); 9 for u11 boys (8 last yr).
U12: 8 out of state for boys (3 last yr); 0 for girls (5 last yr).
U13: 5 out of state for boys (7 last yr); 0 for girls (3 last yr).

Only NTX team I noticed last yr was FC Divas 02, who played in silver bracket. I did not see any NTX teams this year.

Tourney seems very similar to the fall Blitz last year.

07 boys have a couple of ESC teams but no NOKC teams

by Ymca Bob and Kevin Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:21 pm

Predicted winners for ages?

by populista Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:09 pm

004tulsa wrote:Based on gotsoccer it was Umelo Red...unless you know something different, I'm going to believe gotsoccer posting.

Actually, I think the BtH Tournament schedule got it wrong, and GotSoccer just picked that up. The team that played in BtH was the team that plays OPL 11v11 this season, and that is "Gold". Plus, since BtH is a season tune-up tourney, it doesn't make sense that an OPL 8v8 team ("Red") would tune up 11v11.

by populista Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:19 pm

05Soccer wrote:
Blitz 05 is far and away the second best team 05 team in the state and has already won two 11v11 tournaments this year (including beating several teams that play in the top division of 04 OPL including teams WSA has lost to). Not to mention NOKC 05 Red which is hands down the best 05 team (has beaten Blitz 05 almost every time they have played over the years) in the state and is used to playing very high level competition and most of the roster is used to playing up a lot.

I hope you are right about those 05 teams playing up - makes for a better tournament. If one of them wins the tourney, I'll gladly eat crow!!

I will agree that Bracket A looks to have a lot more parity than B; so in that sense is more "competitive" than B.

by **05GKdad_Tulsa** Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:39 pm

Brackets are down...wonder how much modifying is going to happen.

I'm guessing all 3 brackets of u11g. Anyone else?

by westsidesoccer Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:09 pm

Populista- get ready to eat some crow because that 05 Nokc team is legit.

by populista Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:32 am

It's not crow eating time yet! But do feel I owe an apology to Blitz tourney directors, if they even follow this board.

I popped off this morning about uneven brackets without doing my homework. I've now had a chance to look at the records of the 05 teams playing up, and they are highly competitive and seem to fairly balance the brackets.

I know producing a good tourney can be a thankless job. Sorry for making it tougher.

by **05GKdad_Tulsa** Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:14 pm

All my picks in 1 place:
U8 gold: TSC red & black...black wins a close one
U8 silver: WSA
U8 bronze: ?

U9 gold: too close to call...just making finals out of these 4 is impressive.
U9 silver: TSC Silver over Wichita team
U9 bronze: ?

U10 gold: 3 teams w/ minimal gotsoccer reports:: Blitz Red over TSC, thinking KC has trouble adjusting from 6v6 to 8v8
U10 silver: Ponca City
U10 bronze: ?

U11 11v11: Umelo Red over Air Capital Assult...NOKC wins battle of 05s over Blitz
U11 gold: KC Select over Santos
U11 silver: ?
U11 bronze: ?

U9 gold: TSC Winters over SLSC. Thinking tie b/t silver & Winters.
U9 silver: KC
U9 bronze: ?

U10 gold: TSC 06 Black over NEOFC
U10 silver: SLSC
U10 bronze: ?

U11 11v11: Kitterman over Winters...still pick K, but 2-1
U11 gold: Amos Gold over OFC
U11 silver: Blitz Red over Bixby Black

U12 gold: OFC over Blitz
U12 silver: ?

by **05GKdad_Tulsa** Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:56 am

Good luck to everyone this weekend. Great weekend for some soccer.

by Gunners006 Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:01 pm

Ditto

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