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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by Tar Heel on Tue May 24, 2016 7:40 pm

ENERGYFC04 wrote:918 - when mentioned in context its one thing.  when brought up in every conversation its another.   This is how its used on here:

Q.  The sky sure is blue today.
A.  yes it is, blue is the color of ECNL which TSC has.

Q.   Wow, you should be proud of your DD for making the superintendents honor roll.  
A.  I am and she may play ECNL

Q.  What did you have to eat tonight.
A.  Well, i had steak and let me tell you about ECNL diet the coaches recommend.

Q.  Man that OFC 01/SLSC 02 team is good
A.  Well they don't have to play TSC 01/02 ECNL team because ECNL teams are automatically better.

Point is, TSC is fortunate to have ECNL.  They may have some very good teams.  However, its not the end all be all that is consistently regurgitated on here.

That's funny stuff. I am still chuckling. On a more serious note. Was heading to the mall later tonight but remembered that Soccer.com sells ECNL gear. Very Happy
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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by oksoccernut on Tue May 24, 2016 7:41 pm

Rainbow just had a "mic drop" moment on the forum. Spot on insight!

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Post by oksoccernut on Tue May 24, 2016 7:41 pm

Rainbow just had a "mic drop" moment on the forum. Spot on insight!

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by Tar Heel on Tue May 24, 2016 7:41 pm

http://www.soccer.com/Navigation.process?Ntt=ecnl&N=0&Ntk=Search&Nty=1&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallany&Dx=mode%2Bmatchallany

Here's the link.
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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by TSC010405 on Tue May 24, 2016 7:49 pm

Rainbow just messed this up for Energy with all those facts. LOL kidding Energy

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Post by 918soccer on Tue May 24, 2016 7:50 pm

Good insight Rainbow. I think there is a lot of misinformation about (hide your eye's Energy) ECNL costs but it's no more than SRPL. It is unfortunate that competitive soccer is so expensive but it can be greatly reduced with fund raisers and corporate sponsorships.

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Post by The Soccer 1% on Tue May 24, 2016 7:52 pm

There should be a friendly with the top non ECNL team in the state against the ECNL team. Make that happen.

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Post by TSC010405 on Tue May 24, 2016 7:56 pm

The Soccer 1% wrote:There should be a friendly with the top non ECNL team in the state against the ECNL team.  Make that happen.  

Friendly wouldn't cut it.  It would have to actually count towards something.  Otherwise the excuses start pouring in on this page. I think ECNL has more to do with opportunity than if they are the best team in the state. Your daughter may be on a the top non ECNL team that could beat an ECNL team. Who's going to be seen more by college coaches? ECNL.


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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by TSC010405 on Tue May 24, 2016 8:00 pm

That's why all the top girls from OFC go to Dallas to play ECNL.

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by ENERGYFC04 on Tue May 24, 2016 8:27 pm

TSC010405 wrote:That's why all the top girls from OFC go to Dallas to play ECNL.
Cause they can't make TSCs which 1.5 hours away versus 3.5? I'm close to a lot of OFC parents 01s down and haven't heard this.

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by TSC010405 on Tue May 24, 2016 8:29 pm

Must not be top players.

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by ENERGYFC04 on Tue May 24, 2016 8:31 pm

heck yeah. Heading that way tomorrow

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by 918soccer on Wed May 25, 2016 6:42 pm

BIG NEWS: 05 Beattie and 04 Griffin and Parker will not be playing OPL next season. They are joining a new JR ECNL LEAGUE with the Texas ECNL clubs. The goal of this new league is to accelerate development and better prepare the players for ECNL. They are still working out details, but I've heard the games will be played at the same events as ECNL, both age groups will be playing 11v11 in the Fall and the costs will not be any higher than playing OPL and a few tournaments. According to officials at TSCH, the new JR ECNL League will offer a tremendous developmental advantage over OPL and will be the best path for players interested in playing ECNL.

Anyone intreated in this program should contact one of the coaches mentioned above. Their contact information can be found on the TSCH website.

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Post by sooner5 on Wed May 25, 2016 6:58 pm

That is big news. So no state cup for those teams? So basically we won't see those teams unless you are playing ecnl?

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by redcard on Wed May 25, 2016 7:22 pm

At this time it is just extra events to be played like showcases. They will play in OCL and State Cup unless things develop further. It takes the place of their tournament schedule!

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Post by sooner5 on Wed May 25, 2016 7:31 pm

Thanks. If they are going to play OCL you may as well play OPL if that is allowed.

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by TSC010405 on Wed May 25, 2016 7:39 pm

Wow, that really changes the landscape for those age brackets. Interesting.

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Post by Rainbow on Wed May 25, 2016 7:41 pm

Isn't this the same as they did this last year??? Why would that keep them from playing OPL and I would not get the point of those teams playing in OCL.

They had 2 pre-ECNL events in the fall (Texas Cup was canceled) and then 1 pre-ECNL events in the Jan or Feb timeframe. Those basically replaced attending some tournaments.

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by ENERGYFC04 on Wed May 25, 2016 7:42 pm

It is increasingly looking like TSC will be abandoning OSA before too long.

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by oksoccer on Wed May 25, 2016 7:44 pm

so who knows what is really going on here. Just scrimmage league like 918 says or scrimmage events and still play in OPL like redcard says??? I might have to drive up turnpike to participate. lol!
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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by ENERGYFC04 on Wed May 25, 2016 7:46 pm

Rainbow wrote:Isn't this the same as they did this last year??? Why would that keep them from playing OPL and I would not get the point of those teams playing in OCL.

They had 2 pre-ECNL events in the fall (Texas Cup was canceled) and then 1 pre-ECNL events in the Jan or Feb timeframe.  Those basically replaced attending some tournaments.
IMO 2 things are happening here. First, this is a move by ECNL before the DA hits in 2017. Lets face it, its money and ECNL is trying to be proactive. Second, its great marketing for TSC and every other club because it accomplishes a couple of things. First, from a marketing perspective anything "exclusive" is alluring to others regardless of the quality of the product. This is how brand names "sale" themselves. Also, in doing this TSC can stay away from other good teams in Oklahoma and claim superiority without ever having to play them if TSC so chooses. Again, good marketing on TSC's part.

That said, if i'm TSC patron i would have some trepidation as 2017 could be a game changer.

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by Keeper on Wed May 25, 2016 7:49 pm

I know of at least 5 girls from ofc that play with Fc Dallas in ecnl. I believe they are 01, 02 and a few older ones. No offense to Tsc but if I'm going to drive two hours I might as well drive 3 and play with the best. I think Dallas has better trainers, and I don't think Tsc has that top notch reputation in ecnl like Fc Dallas. It's like it's like Iowa state in the big 12. Are happy to just be there or are you actually contributing?

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by Rainbow on Wed May 25, 2016 7:52 pm

I think DA will be interesting.... the thing is that the order of the leagues will just cause SRPL and OPL to fall farther down on the list (ie DA, ECNL, USYS National League, SRPL then OPL) and with DA having teams that combine 2 years worth of players we are talking about 6 - 10 players per age group getting chance to participate so if one club in OK is lucky enough to get a DA then ECNL will still serve as the platform that provides the better opportunities for the largest number of players. I do not think DA will be able to replace ECNL or wipe it out. ECNL seems to be heavily supported by the college coaches. Maybe even more so if ECNL would form their teams based on graduation year Smile

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by Rainbow on Wed May 25, 2016 7:54 pm

I do not disagree if the Texas team will include a few players and allow for limited practices... plus the coaches at OFC will not let someone play at TSCH ECNL and continue at OFC so if you want to do both you kind of have to go to Dallas.

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Re: 2004 True Age Landscape

Post by TSC010405 on Wed May 25, 2016 7:55 pm

When DA gets here I really don't see it getting in the way of ECNL that much. There are enough kids for them to both exist and claim the other is better. Obviously some things may change for ECNL but it's not like this will happen over night. That being said I have read that they wouldn't plan on entering Oklahoma at first any ways. This could be 5 or 6 years out. At which time most of our kids will be gone. DA is going to select clubs not teams that can compete a high level. So obviously you are looking at either OFC or TSCH in Oklahoma. The other clubs just aren't deep enough or have the numbers to make it profitable.
As a TSC parent I have no trepidation over this change. Our girls will get better competition. Seems like there is still a lot to shake out in terms of OPL, OCL and State Cup.

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